Here is a preview of 2009 rule changes. I'm still working on the rules and I have to get some wording approved so it will still be a bit before the final rules are available.
General Regulation Changes 2009
Workers of age 16 can now submit rule changes and vote in the annual rules meeting.
Classification Changes 2009
In SP plastic side and rear windows will no longer invoke the excessive lightening penalty if 30 lbs. of compensating weight is added to the car.
Modifications to the mass air flow or MAP sensor signal in Unprepared are no longer allowed.
Some classes in U and SP are now limited to all wheel drive or two wheel drive cars and all cars except AWD U and SP cars will be in a new class. The new classes are as follows.
UNPREPARED CLASSES
Unprepared 1 AWD 1.550 and above cc/lb
Unprepared 2 2WD 1.550 and above cc/lb
Unprepared 3 AWD Less than 1.550 cc/lb
Unprepared 4 2WD Less than 1.550 cc/lb
Unprepared 5 Less than 1.000 cc/lb
Unprepared 6 Less than 0.840 cc/lb
STREET PREPARED CLASSES
Street Prepared 1 AWD 1.500 and above cc/lb
Street Prepared 2 2WD 1.500 and above cc/lb
Street Prepared 3 AWD Less than 1.500 cc/lb
Street Prepared 4 2WD Less than 1.500 cc/lb
Street Prepared 5 Less than 1.060 cc/lb
Street Prepared 6 Less than .900 cc/lb
Technical and Safety Changes 2009
No changes for 2009
2009 Rule Changes
Re: 2009 Rule Changes
To the few people who might have noticed I did move this topic. I orignally had it under rules. But there wasn't a place for post that covered an announcement about rules in general. So it seems the general discussion was a better location.
Re: 2009 Rule Changes
To bump start the conversation....on the email list there is a discussion relative to establishing a bumping order for U and SP, now that there is separation between awd and 2wd cars.
IE can a 2wd car bump into a higher class that is for awd cars?
IE can a 2wd car bump into a higher class that is for awd cars?
Sachilles
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Re: 2009 Rule Changes
Well,
It appears that that phrase “able to bump to any higher class” is the problem.
1 2 3 4 is easy to decide what is higher.
Perhaps 2 new class categories are needed.
2WD S, 4WD S, 2WD U, and 4WD U.
Now we have numbers again,
#5
It appears that that phrase “able to bump to any higher class” is the problem.
1 2 3 4 is easy to decide what is higher.
Perhaps 2 new class categories are needed.
2WD S, 4WD S, 2WD U, and 4WD U.
Now we have numbers again,
#5
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Seth, thanks for posting this over here.
John M., welcome to the boards!
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My understanding.... a 2WD can go into a 4WD, but no 4WD can land in a 2WD.
I had thought the rule only affected the old U1 and U2 (and S1 and S2) to make the following classes
New Class (old class) format
U1 (4WD U1 cars)
U2 (2WD U1 cars)
U3 (4wd U2 cars)
U4 (2wd U2 cars)
U5 (U3)
U6 (U4)
So, a 2WD U6 car can go into any class above. A 4WD U6 car could do U5, U3, U1.
Same would be true for Street Prepard.
Steve
John M., welcome to the boards!
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My understanding.... a 2WD can go into a 4WD, but no 4WD can land in a 2WD.
I had thought the rule only affected the old U1 and U2 (and S1 and S2) to make the following classes
New Class (old class) format
U1 (4WD U1 cars)
U2 (2WD U1 cars)
U3 (4wd U2 cars)
U4 (2wd U2 cars)
U5 (U3)
U6 (U4)
So, a 2WD U6 car can go into any class above. A 4WD U6 car could do U5, U3, U1.
Same would be true for Street Prepard.
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Just out of curiosity I looked to see if an AWD car has been built that would fit into the present U3 or S3 (proposed U5 and S5). I limited my searching to cars built for North America as there seem to be a number of JDM only and Europe only cars that could fit. I think maybe a 1.8 Litre 1994 Impreza could qualify. Anyone know of others?
Oh, I also ignored AWD vans and SUV's.
Oh, I also ignored AWD vans and SUV's.
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Re: 2009 Rule Changes
maybe a suzuki sx4, and the old honda square bodied civic wagon. There sure aren't a lot of them out there.
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Nope. It it had an 8V engine, maybe, but the combo of AWD, turbo and 16V puts it into the present U2/S2.Rabbit Farmer wrote:323 GTX turbo? Unsure....
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Yes, I think both would fit based on what info I could find.sachilles wrote:maybe a suzuki sx4, and the old honda square bodied civic wagon. There sure aren't a lot of them out there.
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