Question for Burke ck. 2 workers

Re: Question for Burke ck. 2 workers

Postby 3rdgendennis » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:08 pm

I actually missed sherms post about running them across in the trees. Not sure how I feel about that.
Who's gonna carry the spool of wire thru the drainage pipes? Or would we trust that a break in the wire with a plug wouldn't cause issues?
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Re: Question for Burke ck. 2 workers

Postby walterclark » Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:02 pm

sdwarf36 wrote:My thought is cross the road with the wire-somewhere near 1a-hang it in the trees with a couple of plastic clamps-and cross back where convient -probably right above turn 11 or so (the compression bump).


What Shem wrote - for those who dont read to the end of a paragraph...

Here is my opinion.

Personally I am not happy with either subjecting the wire to hanging over the road or running it under.

Over the road will stress and stretch the wire at each end leading to failures.

Running it under would require inline connectors that have a host of their own issues from stressing the wire at the connectors when putting it down or picking it up to contact corrosion and wear. My bet is the stress of laying down and picking it up would kill it first.

Over the road, if hung with something to reduce or eliminate the load of the wires own weight on itself, and hung high enough so someone in a pickup with a CB radio and 1/2 wave whip doesnt snag it is preferable. Clipping a couple stranded steel wire cables across the road to trees and hanging the comm wire from that with plastic snap carabiners would be acceptable. A plastic clip on each end with the comm wire hanging on them is not. This is just 20ga soft stranded copper folks, not steel telephone wire like SCCNH uses, or the aluminum or hardened copper alloy used by power and phone companies for utility power lines (and they have stress relievers at every suspension point).
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Re: Question for Burke ck. 2 workers

Postby KevinGale » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:12 pm

3rdgendennis wrote:As a worker i would not want to be attached to a wire that is run across the road. One small loop gets caught on someone's car as it bottoms out and you've got a mess on your hands.


I'm pretty sure we were talking about above the road. Hanging high in the trees like it does at every event at Ascutney. I bet lots of people don't notice that finish is on the opposite side of the road at Ascutney from all the other check points.

Walter does have a good point. SCCNH knots, pulls and stretches the wire to get it across the road. They have a steel wire that can take this abuse. Our wire isn't that tough. But like Walter said a rope or cable stretched across high enough to clear a large truck (trucks go up to service the cell towers while we are there) should work. Then we hang the wire from that.
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Re: Question for Burke ck. 2 workers

Postby sdwarf36 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:05 pm

Oh come on guys-your pulling my leg. We are just gonna pick up the tar + slide the wire underneath (using one of those yellow protectors of course) + set the tar back down. At the end of the weekend, we'll just get the workers to lift the road back up + throw it back to the regular side.

Hanging the wire in the trees is nothing new-its been done since before I've run it-on the outside of turns especially. (Its better to have a car go UNDER the wire than slide over it with the brakes locked.) Its above the road for 1/4 mile at Okemo.
I'm betting SCCNH's heavy wire needs extra support to hang it-but SCCV used to have theirs cross the road (at holding) tree to tree.
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Re: Question for Burke ck. 2 workers

Postby walterclark » Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:34 pm

Then you take care of it.
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Re: Question for Burke ck. 2 workers

Postby smokey15 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:29 am

No one has mentioned the possibility of moving the workers further up the hill. My recollection is that it isn't that far to where the terrain becomes verticle and it would provide the workers with an excellent view of oncoming cars and offer them the safety of being out of the apex, with some elevation. (same side of the road).
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Re: Question for Burke ck. 2 workers

Postby Chief Geek » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:29 pm

I think Smokey is right. It's pretty easy to move the workers station farther up the hill. I've worked there and only felt unsafe before we moved our station 50' up the ski trail.

Even with some terribly bad luck, it would take some pretty nifty gymnastics to chuck a car that far up.

This does decrease the view of the cars some, but usually we don't see problems, only hear them.

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Re: Question for Burke ck. 2 workers

Postby sdwarf36 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:56 pm

Ok-we'll just move it uphill some. Sure will beat the heck of of trying to get the wire reel thru a drainage pipe. :lol:
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