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It never would be anything I (or most of us) would have-but I build VSRA legal 289's at work that make 570+ hp 475 ft lbs that rev to 8300rpm-and thats with iron heads. Stock they weigh about 460-with a good Dart block your looking maybe 500. Take away the rules + build it out of Aluminum it could go down near 400.
But I rather worry about cars that do run with us-thats why I asked about the Tiger-is it under 5 liter now-and would we be moving it down a class?

If the engine in the Tiger is a 289 or 302, then yes this would bump it down to P2

3rdgendennis wrote:If the engine in the Tiger is a 289 or 302, then yes this would bump it down to P2

Soooo-if the main goal was to not have to run against V-8s-you're now gonna open things up to allow them in TWO of the 4 classes?

Of course I dont run with this elite group so who am I to say, but I dont see a problem. The potential power is similar and so is the risk of going there to both the engine and pocketbook. It makes P1 a class for really big boys (engines that is).

Which reminds me...Why is P1 limited to 8 liters?

walterclark wrote:Which reminds me...Why is P1 limited to 8 liters?

That is a good question. So if someone showed up in a modified with a 528 Hemi they can't run in P?
Looks like when the rules were written, they started at some number (8000) that was probably beyond any engine sizes running at the time, and worked their way down. Anyone know exactly when these specific limits were put into place?

3rdgendennis wrote: That is a good question. So if someone showed up in a modified with a 528 Hemi they can't run in P?
Looks like when the rules were written, they started at some number (8000) that was probably beyond any engine sizes running at the time, and worked their way down. Anyone know exactly when these specific limits were put into place?

John Reed will know. As he posted earlier, he along with Jimmy Hale and Dave Patten create the basis of the rules we use now. I don't care if we raise it or remove it. If someone wants to show up with an 800 cu motor and run in P1 I want to watch.

I was thinking along the lines of a small aluminum V8 like the Audi 4.2 that has been turbocharged (aka RS6 biturbo) and using the front part of the A8/S8/RS6 running gear in the back of a tube frame chassis...

I figure with 800HP on tap one might want to keep both hands on the wheel and the ZF from those cars can take it, so not clutch or shifter. Just point it and pull the trigger.

I like the way Walter thinks. I hope somebody builds it someday.

i was following this because if I ever get bored with the quantum I was going to cage it and run it. I figured if I ran street tires with the proposed rule it would be in P2. but right now it would be in P1 with little to no chance against a modified. Is the 8 liter limit to prevent the v8 turbo? to prevent a twin turbo v8 with nitrous from launching themselves into the woods at some ungodly speed.

walterclark wrote:I was thinking along the lines of a small aluminum V8 like the Audi 4.2 that has been turbocharged (aka RS6 biturbo) and using the front part of the A8/S8/RS6 running gear in the back of a tube frame chassis...

Seth... sounds like what your cousin was making with his VW Rabbit pickup.... except rear engine.